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Storage & IO trends for 2013 (& Beyond)

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Usman
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2/23/2013 12:01:58 PM
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Re: Hybrid Drives !!

@ Greg: Thanx, That was a good piece of advice. Lets also not forget that SSDs are very fast right out of the box, but there are a few things that you can do to make them perform even better and increase their lifetime like by using the latest firmware, making sure that Advanced Host Controller Interface (AHCI) is enabled in the system BIOS and by avoiding NTFS compression for frequently used folders, as it decreases SSD performance.


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Greg Schulz
Greg Schulz
2/19/2013 1:28:41 PM
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Re: Hybrid Drives !!
@Usman while faster boots and reading data are often touted as SSD prime benefits, dont forget about being able to save large documents, files or objects fster, or being able to shutdown quicker. For example I was just working with a 400MB video file and saving it to HDD would take a long time, where saving to SSD much faster, less wait time.

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Usman
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2/19/2013 1:04:48 PM
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Re: Hybrid Drives !!

@ Greg: yes you are right. The major advantage of an HDD that I can see is that it is capable of storing lots of data cheaply. But if performance and fast boot up is the top consideration, and money is secondary, then SSD should be the way to go.


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Greg Schulz
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2/19/2013 12:41:51 PM
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Re: Hybrid Drives !!
@Usman no worries. If you can afford the performance boost, or, benefit from the improved performance of SSD at a given space capacity point, then go SSD. Otoh, if you cant afford the performance, or need more space capacity then go HDD, or have some amount of SSD for hot spots, or look at HHDD if read intensive.

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Usman
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2/19/2013 12:32:34 PM
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Re: Hybrid Drives !!
@ Greg: Thanx Greg, Yes you are right that they both fit in different domain and so they can be worth the cost but do you think that SSDs are worth considering over disks will come down to cost calculations involving performance and the nature of your datasets?

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Greg Schulz
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2/18/2013 11:41:38 AM
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Re: Hybrid Drives !!
@Usman yes, you are correct, it all depends. If you can derive value or get a benefit (business financial or non financial) then SSDs can be a great bargin for some things. Likewise HDDs or HHDDs, tape or cloud for that matter can also be great fit. Like many things, they too often get positioned as one vs. the other, however can be better together. Its not always about the IOPS or capacity or cost per say, whats the benefit or value derived or enabled...

So have you finally gotten an answer to your question of if or when SSD can be worth the cost?

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Usman
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2/18/2013 7:10:05 AM
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Re: Hybrid Drives !!
@ Greg: I believe each buyer has different needs and you have to evaluate the decision based on those needs, your preferences, and of course budget that either you want to go for SSD or HDD. Like if you need lots of storage capacity, up to 2TB and do not want to spend much money and do not care too much about how fast a computer boots up or opens programs then you should go for HDD however if you are willing to pay for faster performance and do not mind limited storage capacity or can work around that then should get an SSD. So yes you are right it depends on the use. Many times I have been a part of this discussion but I haven't yet got the satisfactory answer that Are SSDs worth the money?

 

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Greg Schulz
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2/17/2013 11:18:41 AM
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Re: Hybrid Drives !!
@Usman no worries and thks, yes Im a fan of HHDDs for when and where they are applicable, same with SSDs and HDDs.

As for Apple and their current fusion drive, based on how they have marketed, promoted and thus generated awareness around it, that is what many people think of as a HHDD. Sure its part of the HHDD family which extends from the actual HHDDs such as those being done by Seagate (STX) and WD, to those combining HDD with some SSD drive (or flash elsewhere perhaps mSATA) to points and packaging in between.

IMHO (and this is speculation), given that Apple has some interesting patents around HHDDs (not on the drives themeselves) and how to add value to them, as STX and WD come out with more HHDD products that incorporate write optimization (vs. just read). Also along with larger amounts of MLC (vs. SLC) or TLC nand flash, we could see a new round of products from Apple.

One of the challenges is managing or leveraging the raw HHDDs which is where Apple has some patents (again, not on the drives themselves, rather their use).

Another challenge is that in HHDDs, the nand flash SSD capacity is determined by the physical size and capacity per die/chip.

This is where a combination of using MLC/eMLC/TLC along with enhanced flash translation layer (FTL) management tools, and dies/chips with a denser low level lithography (really low level density stuff ;) all come into play.

Oh, lets not forget about the role and importance the thin low profile (e.g. 7mm) 2.5" form factor devices that are needed in these new generations of devices.

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Usman
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2/17/2013 3:09:41 AM
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Hybrid Drives !!
@ greg: That was quite informative Greg! Thanx for sharing this article. No doubt, Hybrid drives are amazing that combine SSD with low cost HDDS. Do you think that based on the amount of flash capacity offered by Apple, its Fusion drive is a hybrid drive? which combines flash and spinning disk in a hard drive form factor

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Greg Schulz
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2/15/2013 12:14:21 PM
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Re: Cloud Storage Trends
@HubSupport yes you are correct for archive or things that will not be frequently used or access, AWS Glacier is an interesting service. I have been doing some things with it for awhile now, and it has good potential not just for archives, also for master/gold or "True DR" backups that get done maybe couple of times a year, or other inactive and archive type things.

The catch is that you have to wait from 3-5 hours before you can access your data which means the point where you could start downloading, or restoring. There is another catch which is that while the cost can be as low as 1 cent (USD) per month per GB, other charges can apply for actually restoring, listing, or other functions once you go past your monthly alotment.

Btw, while there may be some SSD for metadata, caching, indexing etc involved with Glacier, there is also HDD involved along with other technology that remains in the realm of speculation (unless you are under an NDA or work for Amazon or know somebody who knows somebody who told you something they shouldnt have ;) )...

Here are some more thoughts/perspectives on Glacier:

Amazon cloud storage options enhanced with Glacier

http://storageioblog.com/?p=3427

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